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04:36 pm: Is it just me…

Or does anyone else find the involvement of the Muppets and Sesame Street Characters in the culture war disturbing?

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From:juliet_winters
Date:July 25th, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. It just makes me glad my kids are past the age when they would be interested in them. When the lass was a tot, she watched the Sesame Street New Year's Ever Around the World ad nauseum. One of the kinds of New Year's they celebrated was Jewish New Year. Traditional Jews hold traditional values. They've gone from multicultural to monocultural, not allowing for real diversity. And, having discouraged religion in the mainstream, monoculturalism seems to be riding quite a wave.

Recent example: the Southern Baptists. They are a huge Protestant group in the U.S.
Just last month, they elected a black man as head of their body. Even 20 years ago, totally unheard of. How is it covered in the media? Dwelling on the wrongs of the past ... and adding to it their stance on traditional marriage.
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From:fabricdragon
Date:July 25th, 2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
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yes it is certainly very very odd
From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 26th, 2012 12:47 am (UTC)
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Why, what are the Muppets or Sesame Street characters doing?
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 26th, 2012 02:07 am (UTC)
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Supporting gay marriage in anti-Chick-Fil-A posters.

I realize that there is currently a tussle between Jim Henson's company and the restaurant chain, but I guess, given my druthers I'd rather not see the characters appear in things that are not actually for kids--no matter which side they were on or what the subject.

It just strikes me as out-of-place.

(Especially since Sesame Street is a show on public TV paid for by the tax dollar of people on both sides of these kinds of issues.)

From:xander25
Date:July 26th, 2012 07:23 am (UTC)
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"It just strikes me as out-of-place."

This is one of the the things that annoyed me about the new Doctor Who as I watched. Every time Jack Harkness was around I wanted to cringe. The show was otherwise brilliant, so it became something of a love/hate relationship (and there were more than a few awesome eps of Torchwood also). It was just that one out of place thing....
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From:juliet_winters
Date:July 26th, 2012 11:33 am (UTC)
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Miss Katy Perry, cute as a button granted, got into a -bit- of hot water for serenading the muppets in a rather seductive gown with a suggestive song. On a show for preschoolers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHROHJlU_Ng

Of course, the Henson company was fine with it. It was the audience that complained, or at least some of them. I also take issue with her song, Fireworks. Pop rock at its finest, with an uplifting message. I'm sure I would have totally loved it as a teen. It is that catchy.

But it lied heavily about the realities of teen acceptance/rejection. I'm afraid some of the gay kids who committed suicide believed her Disneyesque version of how life would be great if they only lived as they wished. No bravery required beyond the initial plunge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw

Then it will just be an amazing Glee-like experience. And, yes, it's ironic that they are coupling it with an ad for The Dark Knight, which as we have seen is representative/can trigger the flip side of alienation.
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From:bojojoti
Date:July 26th, 2012 09:30 am (UTC)
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When Stevie Nicks had a new song come out a few years ago, she was interviewed, and the reporter wanted to know if the song was political against George Bush (which was a stretch of the imagination, for certain, and what an idiotic question to ask). I was pleased to hear Ms. Nicks shut the reporter down with a comment that said she was a musician, and she sang songs. She refused to get political, and I found that refreshing.

I certainly don't need or want children's characters, especially ones funded with public monies, going after a privately held company in order to drive them out of business. I'm so tired of the vindictive nature of politics.
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 26th, 2012 12:29 pm (UTC)
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Also depends on how it is done...a picture of Kermet and Miss Piggy with the caption 'supporting diversity in marriage since 1984' is cute.

A picture of Bert and Ernie with the caption 'Come on, Chick-Fil-A, didn't you know we were a couple?' Not so much.

Especially since it's not true. I realize that there is a crude musical that makes them a couple, but come on! Two generations of Americans have been visiting Bert and Ernie's house for over two generations. They live in different rooms.

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From:bojojoti
Date:July 26th, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
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The Kermit and Miss Piggy sounds cute, but my problem is that they are politicizing children's icons. Can you imagine the outrage if other beloved icons were used in such a manner for an unpopular stance?
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 26th, 2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
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Exactly. Do we want to see Mickey Mouse pro or con abortion? Dora sounding off on guns?

I kind of feel children's characters should stick with children's subjects.

I feel doubly so when the characters appear on public TV paid for by everyone's tax money.
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