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07:28 am: Princess and the Stars

Last night, I was chatting with the princess about movies she had seen, when she asked if stars were really the spirits of the dead.

She was serious.

I had tried to explain about stars once before. This time I had John do it with videos from the internet. Still not sure she understood most of it though.

Kind of freaky.

She also wants to know what destroyed the dinosaurs and where people come from. She thinks both "evolution" and "made by God" are laughable explanations. In China, they believe a goddess made people.

 

 

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From:filialucis
Date:July 20th, 2012 02:14 pm (UTC)
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Wait, "made by God" is laughable and "made by a goddess" is plausible?

I may need a few minutes to wrap my mind round that one! :)
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 20th, 2012 03:50 pm (UTC)
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Yeah...me, too. I tried to explain that if there was a goddess, God would have made her, too...that he made EVERYTHING.

But I don't think she grasps the magnitude of God yet. I think she thinks he is a powerful guy.
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From:vitruvian23
Date:July 20th, 2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
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While I don't share your and John's particular beliefs on these matters, would not the following be relevant and suggest that really, it would be quite as proper to refer to God (at least God the Father) as Goddess, Her, Mother, since neither gender really applies?

239 By calling God "Father", the language of faith indicates two main things: that God is the first origin of everything and transcendent authority; and that he is at the same time goodness and loving care for all his children. God's parental tenderness can also be expressed by the image of motherhood,62 which emphasizes God's immanence, the intimacy between Creator and creature. the language of faith thus draws on the human experience of parents, who are in a way the first representatives of God for man. But this experience also tells us that human parents are fallible and can disfigure the face of fatherhood and motherhood. We ought therefore to recall that God transcends the human distinction between the sexes. He is neither man nor woman: he is God. He also transcends human fatherhood and motherhood, although he is their origin and standard:63 no one is father as God is Father.
- http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P17.HTM
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 20th, 2012 07:32 pm (UTC)
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Hmm...as a Christian Scientist, we don't really think of God as Father per se. We call him Father Mother God...emphasizing both qualities. Ping-Ping does know "God is Love."

But it is a good point that I should emphasize to her the degree to which God covers feminine as well as masculine qualities.

Ping-Ping is referring to Nuwa, the Chinese earth goddess who creates mankind in Chinese fairy tales.
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From:vitruvian23
Date:July 20th, 2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
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The myth of Nüwa creating mankind for clay seems remarkably parallel to the Greek myth of Prometheus, and not terribly dissimilar to one of the Genesis accounts. A little comparative mythology might not be a bad way to introduce the idea of there being many different stories that deal with creation, eventually explaining why you feel the Christian conception of Creator and Godhead as ineffable and beyond human characteristics such as gender makes more sense as the true story, that earlier myths and legends could be considered a crude approximation to...
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 20th, 2012 09:02 pm (UTC)
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Alas, I do not think her English is up to comparative mythology yet...but it is something to look forward to. ;-)
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From:vitruvian23
Date:July 20th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
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D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths is at a fairly low grade level, language wise, and the stories therein resonate throughout a lot of Western culture she'll be exposed to later... just a thought.
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 20th, 2012 09:24 pm (UTC)
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We have that, though the boys prefer the Norse one. Ping-Ping hasn't shown much interest yet.
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From:David Marcoe
Date:July 20th, 2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
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May I chime in?

I might start with am emphasis on God as Creator. Getting into what the Almighty as referenced himself as through the the course of history might confuse things a bit, particularly with her existing conceptions. I could just imagine all the fun to be had explaining "Father Mother God" with the language barrier. By emphasizing God's role, and relating that to concrete human examples (artists, authors, architects; any creative endeavor...), that would do more to illustrate God's character than tying one's self into knots over issues of gender.

Further, since we're talking about examples, I believe Vitruvian has the right of it, with respect to mythology. C.S. Lewis called Christ the "True Myth" and believed him the fulfillment of everything that had been foreshadowed in Paganism. In fact, he said he couldn't have come to believe in Christianity if it hadn't been anticipated in Paganism. You might pursue this line later on, when the language issues are less of a barrier, but it's an approach worth looking at. You might also try looking around for Chinese Christian online communities and ask them their thoughts.

Edited at 2012-07-20 11:15 pm (UTC)
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From:jjbrannon
Date:July 21st, 2012 07:11 am (UTC)

Space Princess in the House

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...Which could've been a smash BBC comedy in the '70s but wasn't.

However, this notion of Ping-Ping's may explain John's failure to entice your daughter into an astronautical career.

I was shocked when a coworker scoffed at the idea of disposing of nuclear waste by throwing it into space toward the Sun as "not satisfied with polluting the Earth, now they want to pollute outer space".

When I worked as an electrician many years ago, I was amazed at the number of competent, professional women who didn't realize wires ran within the walls from the toggle switches to the lights in their kitchens. Rarely, men; nearly all the women.

Raised in a community of engineer's children, I never realized how unthinking people are with respect to the technology or applied science that underlies their environment.

Stuff just happens. It's magical thinking.

Yet these same sort of people oft condemn Christians as superstitious.


JJB
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From:arhyalon
Date:July 21st, 2012 02:04 pm (UTC)

Re: Space Princess in the House

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The Princess was very interested in the idea of places in space we haven't been to. And she said she wanted to get rich so she could afford to build something that could take her to the moon.

John did encourage her. ;-)

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