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07:11 am: A Day With The Princess

Spent yesterday at Longwood Gardens in PA with the Princess and the Cherubim. We met two of Ping-Ping's girlfriends from China. One who now lives in Maryland and one who now lives in Alaska, but who was in town visiting her grandmother.

It was so much fun watching these girls chat together. They were all tiny, though one was taller than Ping-Ping. The other two must be several years younger, also, though you couldn't really tell. One of the families also had a four year old Chinese girl, also recently adopted. The other family also had another Chinese girl, though she had been home a few years. All three of our families had three boys before we adopted a girl.

So far, every family I've met through Chinese adoption has been Conservative Christians. I know one lesbian couple through college who have adopted–very caring and intelligent Liberal folks, but other than that…all Conservatives. I wonder why.

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From:juliet_winters
Date:April 30th, 2012 03:14 pm (UTC)
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I think it may have something to do with the underlying difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberality is about the freedom--and the fun. Anyone who's seen their friends have children go through the grueling bits may prefer to avoid it altogether. Or at least that's the way it's been for my relatives.

We have the only children on both sides of the family for pretty much those reasons. Oh, they might tack on something about their position is being better for the environment, but when push comes to shove, they don't want to make the hard choices you have to as a parent. To tell someone 'no' and mean it. To give up your time and your personal stuff so that others...who are completely dependent on you...can have something.

My in-laws do not understand why their other sons have no interest in rearing families ... and it's a tough one to explain. Really more a question of why should they want to? Particularly when they see the difficulties we encounter. There's not much in it for them.
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From:tinymammoth
Date:May 1st, 2012 03:19 am (UTC)
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www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-09-26-fertility-gap_x.htm

The future is going to look different.
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From:juliet_winters
Date:May 1st, 2012 04:51 am (UTC)
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Yep, when more kids were born out-of-wedlock than in, things have surely changed.
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From:jjbrannon
Date:April 30th, 2012 07:48 pm (UTC)

You were in the neighborhood?

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...and you didn't stop by?

[Good thing you didn't -- the house is a mess! The lawn must be a foot high at least.]

One of the technicians that regularly services our company's HVAC systems adopted a daughter from China. He's fairly politically conservative, too.

There might be a selection bias in the sample at work though.


JJB
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From:jjbrannon
Date:April 30th, 2012 07:58 pm (UTC)

PS...

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Speaking of the Princess, I noted about a week or so ago that John posted some photos of various astronauts that seemed to follow a particular selection bias themselves.

Are you **sure**, Jagi, he's not trying to raise his own Space Princess? :>)

He doesn't, f'rinstance, casually strew NASA or Blue Origin pamphlets around the house or bring flight patches back from Cons, does he?

I did slightly know Cady Coleman in college. She was a couple of years behind me.


JJB
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From:arhyalon
Date:April 30th, 2012 10:03 pm (UTC)

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He he he.

No, the princess is space-proof. She loves everything China and has her heart set on returning to China to help children there.
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From:arhyalon
Date:April 30th, 2012 10:02 pm (UTC)

Re: You were in the neighborhood?

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Didn't know you lived up that way! If I visit with the family sometime, I'll let you know!

The sample is: People who have adopted from Guangzhou whom I have met personally...either here or in China.
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From:jjbrannon
Date:May 1st, 2012 05:03 am (UTC)

Re: You were in the neighborhood?

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I live in Newark, Delaware, about 20 minutes from Longwood Gardens. My cousin Tom and his family reside in Kennett and his eldest daughter Cammy worked at the Dairy Queen on Old Baltimore Pike, just south of the Gardens.

We usually celebrate New Year's Day at breakfast at the Creekside Diner in Kennett, a bit further west on Old Baltimore Pike.

I've been kicking around that area since 1975 when I helped Tom move.


JJB
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From:arhyalon
Date:May 1st, 2012 10:53 am (UTC)

Re: You were in the neighborhood?

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Cool! If we ever work out bringing the rest of the family, maybe you'd like to meet us and tour around the garden, too.
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From:bojojoti
Date:May 1st, 2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
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Family is generally important to conservatives--not that there aren't liberals who place value on family and children.

Also, just having children seems to have a conservative effect on many people. I know that I was very liberal when I was young. I felt as though people should have freedom to do whatever they pleased. Live and let live. Once I became a parent, I had to think about the consequences to our children if society didn't have boundaries and poor actions didn't have consequences. That has a very governing effect!
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From:arhyalon
Date:May 1st, 2012 03:57 pm (UTC)
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A wise observation. I am not entirely conservative myself...but I am very far from my liberal youth as well. ;-)
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From:hannahsarah
Date:May 2nd, 2012 08:37 am (UTC)
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Excellent points! That has been my experience as well.
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