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12:59 pm: In the Eye of the Beholder…

So, I’ve just had someone complain about the pro-Catholic dogma in the Prospero series…and someone else compliment me for its anti-Catholic stance.

It makes me wonder, rather chagrinned, how much of things I don’t like in books I read do I bring to them myself.

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From:jjbrannon
Date:November 22nd, 2011 07:10 pm (UTC)

Let me straddle the mean

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May I compliment you on your non-hostile treatment of Catholicism?

[Very-lapsed High-Church American Anglican Catholic],
JJB
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From:arhyalon
Date:November 22nd, 2011 07:16 pm (UTC)

Re: Let me straddle the mean

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A friend I repeated this to called the book: Chaotic Neutral Catholic. LOL

But thanks. I tried to deal with the historical issues and to be fair both to the Catholics and the Protestants in the story. ;-)
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From:annafirtree
Date:November 22nd, 2011 09:42 pm (UTC)

Re: Let me straddle the mean

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"Chaotic Neutral Catholic" ... Haha! That's perfect.

Gregor having the power/authority of a Pope, in Hell, could easily be considered as being pro-Catholic dogma, since the Protestant position is more along the lines that a pope is no one special, just one more preacher or bishop among many.

I can't remember any examples, but I do remember something coming up which I thought could be considered anti-Catholic (or at least anti-Catholic dogma) ... although I think it was a character expressing their opinion, so not something that you would *have* to take as the opinion of the author. Whoever accused you of being anti-Catholic may have just been reacting to the "corrupt, corrupt clergymen" thing (Borgias, right?), which I wouldn't consider to be anti-Catholic since (a) it's true and (b) the Church doesn't teach that it's clergy will be good anyhow.
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From:arhyalon
Date:November 22nd, 2011 10:08 pm (UTC)

Re: Let me straddle the mean

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If someone said there were pro and con Catholic characters, I'd agree entirely! Theo and Gregor are pro Catholic. Erasmus, who helped write the KJV, is a staunch Protestant.

And there is the Borgias and the raid on the Vatican in Book One...but it is all the characters having different reactions (Gregor favored removing magic from the Church, for instance, so he favored the raid even though he was pro.)

But the author tried very hard to be neutral. As to Gregor's Popeness...well, in a world with a million different types of pagan magic, can't the Christians have a little, too? ;-)
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From:marycatelli
Date:November 23rd, 2011 12:17 am (UTC)
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Reminds of the critiques I got on one story telling me that one side of the argument was well-developed, but the other one was a straw-man.

They didn't agree about which side was which.
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From:arhyalon
Date:November 23rd, 2011 12:37 am (UTC)
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LOL. I have had this happen before, too...it always amuses me.
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From:bojojoti
Date:November 23rd, 2011 10:10 am (UTC)
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You must have done something right!
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