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08:49 am: Shocked Beyond Words (Luckily, I can still type)

Just heard that at some point in the last year, Obama -- to placate China -- refused to meet with the Dalai Lama.

The Dalai Lama!

For...CHINA???

Words fail me.




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From:juliet_winters
Date:January 25th, 2010 01:59 pm (UTC)
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Add it to the list of awful countries he likes to placate.

There's a corresponding list of free world allies he doesn't think are worth the effort.
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From:arhyalon
Date:January 25th, 2010 02:07 pm (UTC)
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I have come to the conclusion that Obama's fault is not enough roleplaying with John as a moderator...otherwise, he'd know that if you are dealing with tyrants, you need to come in with an atmosphere of calm strength...placating them tells them you are one of their lackeys.
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From:juliet_winters
Date:January 25th, 2010 02:29 pm (UTC)
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If he had Steve as a moderator, he'd go in with a tactical strike team.
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From:marycatelli
Date:January 25th, 2010 03:52 pm (UTC)
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But, but, but -- that's why they don't luff us. Because we come in strong.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:January 25th, 2010 05:01 pm (UTC)

China

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He doesn't dare do anything to annoy China... they are the major holders of US Treasury bills i.e. our main creditors.
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From:arhyalon
Date:January 25th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC)

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All the more reason to make it clear that we are firm on human rights.

Sigh.
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From:starshipcat
Date:January 25th, 2010 09:12 pm (UTC)

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Unfortunately, so long as China is our primary creditor, we are beholden to them. Imagine a city whose budget is propped up by loan sharks trying to get tough on organized crime.

Which means that if we want to get serious about human rights, we have got to cut that financial tie -- but nobody wants to have to deal with the economic pain that would result from ceasing to borrow from China and making paying them off a priority.

It's pretty much the same situation as we've got in the Middle East, where we're having to kiss up to tyrants because we're dependent upon their oil resources.
From:jackaroonie
Date:January 26th, 2010 03:11 pm (UTC)

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"so long as China is our primary creditor, we are beholden to them."

Maybe not as much as you fear. In "taking us down", they would go down with us. To use your analogy, if all the money owed to a loanshark was owed to him by a single client and the loanshark busts the client's kneecaps so he is unable to work and repay the loan, where does that leave the loanshark?
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From:the_deuce
Date:January 25th, 2010 08:21 pm (UTC)
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See, in Obama-world, it goes like this: The more oppressive and awful, and hostile to us a country is, the more we must have done to offend them and make them that way, so clearly those are the countries we must apologize and cow-tow to the most.
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From:mount_oregano
Date:January 25th, 2010 09:54 pm (UTC)
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Apparently, Obama will meet with him this spring, using that as leverage to force China to negotiate with the Dalai Lama's envoys. And toughening up US-China policy in various ways.

http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displayStory.cfm?story_id=15384117&source=features_box_main

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LA26Ad02.html
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From:arhyalon
Date:January 26th, 2010 01:23 pm (UTC)
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Oh thank you!

Restores some of my sense of the order of life.

I met the Dalai Lama myself once when I was a teenager. I had no idea who he was and did not properly appreciate the moment, but it is cool in retrospect.
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